Playing old-time before it was old-time
As you may be aware, my dad’s family comes from the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina and Virginia (Ashe County, NC and Smyth County, VA if you’re keeping score). Every once in a while when we’d be visiting back there in the 60’s and early 70’s, I’d get to sit with some people on a porch or in an old store and play music.
Back then, in those parts, they just called it “music,” because that’s what they played. These days, it would be called “Old-time.”
My musical travels took me far from anything like that, to European classical music and what would now be called “classic rock.” But eventually, thanks to landing in the bluegrass-rich Bay Area, I came back to my acoustic roots. This time, though, it was in the thick of the bluegrass world, and somewhere around 2001, I started playing a fair amount of bluegrass. When Lisa and I returned to the Bay Area in 2019, we reconnected with our old bluegrass friends, and I connected with some new ones.
Little did I know that that bluegrass connection would bring me back to the fiddle tunes I played on back porches in Lansing, North Carolina more than 50 years earlier.
You never forget your first one
Fast forward to June of 2025, when I was at the California Bluegrass Association (CBA) Father’s Day Festival in Grass Valley, CA. I was going walkabout around midnight, as one does at these things. It’s a nice way to wind down from a busy day of music, and the campground is calm and peaceful.
Except where it’s not.
As I walked back toward our campsite, I heard the unmistakable sound of a wee-hour jam. I realized that the closer I got to our camp, the louder the jam got, which put me a bit on edge. Lisa and 10-year-old grandchild Elena were (theoretically) asleep in our camp. But as I got closer, I realized that the jam was happening five meters from our tent.
And this was no bluegrass jam. No Blue Night or Old Home Place.
First, it was in the dark (old-time musicians thrive on darkness). Of the 15-20 musicians I could make out in the shadows, perhaps half of them were wearing multi-colored glow sticks (the cultural distance from “old-time” to “rave” is substantially shorter than that from “old-time” to “bluegrass”).
Second, the energy emanating from the musical circle could have powered lights for half the campground. Five or six fiddlers were driving the bus, with a few mandolins, a handful of guitars, and a couple of banjos rounding it out.
I was torn between worrying about my family, trying to sleep in the tent, and entranced by what I was hearing (and sort of seeing). The “band” was mono-focused on a single tune for 5-7 minutes at a time. I’ll give my personal perspective on the differences between bluegrass and old-time jams below, but the first thing that struck me was the shared goal. There were no solos, no harmony singing. In fact, in old-time, there’s very little singing – it’s all about the melody and the groove.
And groove, they did. A tune would finish, there’d be some minimal discussion about the next tune (or the beer, the weather, whatever), and then somewhere in the dark, a fiddler would start a tune. Within an orbit or two of its form, the collective had locked in and returned to the previous level of energy.
I stayed for 20 minutes, then reluctantly walked back over to our tent – I had to be a fully engaged adult the next day. I crawled in, expecting to see Lisa and Elena lying wide-eyed and awake.
Both were sound asleep, even though the jam was clearly audible, tending toward loud. Before I knew it, I was gone too, lulled into sleep by the repetitive tunes.
The next morning, I asked Elena if the music didn’t keep them awake. They looked up askance from their cereal: “No. It just put me to sleep.”
Catching them in the light
Saturday night, I was out for another walkabout. Prowling the late hours at a music festival is like diving on a coral reef – it will always be wonderful, and occasionally there’s magic.
This late evening, I stumbled onto another old-time jam, but for this one they had chanced a camp with actual electric lights – sometimes you have to take risks for your art. I recognized some of the musicians from the Thursday night jam, some were different. But the energy and focus were identical. And I had the presence of mind to deploy my camera.
I also had a mission to stay out until past midnight that night. We were breaking camp the next day and ending a joyous week of family, friends, and music – it was not a night to turn in early.
Importantly, Saturday night at the Father’s Day festival is legendary for the “pop-up” square dance. At midnight. In the middle of the central road through camp. It’s not on the printed schedule, but it is as reliable as the bleary sun rising the next day.
It is here that you learn old-time music’s super-power: fiddle tunes are the fuel that drives dancing. A bluegrass song, like most songs, has a form. An introduction, verses and a chorus, with “breaks” (solos) in between. But then the song is over, just as the dancers are warming up.
A fiddle tune – “old-time music” – has no such boundaries. Most fiddle tunes have the form A-A-B-B – two parts, each played twice. There are infinite variations on that form, but the point is that when you get to the end you just start back at the beginning, until the musicians or dancers are tired out.
I don’t know when the dancers and musicians in the road got too tired to continue. It was very late early and in a relatively few hours I had help fix breakfast, break camp, load the cars, all that stuff. I wouldn’t trade those responsibilities for anything – they are part of my best life. But it was tough to pull myself away from the joyful chaos of all those musicians and dancers under the street light.
Dipping my toe back in
Two months later, I was at the Northern California Bluegrass Society’s Good Old Fashioned Bluegrass Festival, outside Hollister, CA. I had made a point to be in touch with people I knew who would be part of any old-time jam that got going, and I heard whispers that something would happen Saturday night.
As darkness descended, my friends Tom Diamant and Rowan McCallister pulled chairs away from our cluster of sun protection awnings (and, to be fair, the light). I followed them out to their playground-adjacent spot.
“Can I play bass?”
Rowan, who’s as gracious a human as you’ll ever meet, said, “Well, Karen was going to play bass. But she plays banjo too. So maybe she can play banjo, and you can play bass.”
Karen (I’ve inexcusably forgotten her last name) just as graciously agreed to play banjo, and I got the honor to play bass.
Pretty shortly, Dana Frankel showed up too. She plays fiddle in the Bay Area bluegrass band Mission Blue, but has an alter-ego as a hardcore old-time player. I quickly recognized her as one of the fiddlers from the glow stick-lit jam at Father’s Day.
The five of us started playing under an exquisite rising moon.
I was standing behind Tom Diamant, specifically so I’d have a good look (I mean, the best look I could get in the dark) at his hands, so I could deduce chords.
Old-time chords are not bluegrass chords
In bluegrass, a song’s chords are mostly engraved in stone, based on some kind of majority rule, and/or the chords used on the most beloved recording of that song. In old-time, melody is queen, and the chords are mostly left to the discretion of the rhythm players (if any). I am not sufficiently versed in old-time chord battles, but I understand that some old-time communities have hard-and-fast rules about what chords are and aren’t acceptable. E.g. “Thou shalt not play a 4-chord, as it is the devil’s work, and thou must substitute a 6m always.“
Fortunately, this group (or at least Tom) isn’t like that. Not least because I love me a good 4-chord.
But quite often Tom was intuiting the chords only a step or two ahead of me. And honestly, that’s half the fun. When I’m in a bluegrass jam, the chords are preset, and with few exceptions, they’re predictable as clockwork. In an old-time jam, whatever the rhythm players agree on (that doesn’t offend the melody players) is fine.
Since I knew basically none of the tunes, I was reliant on Tom, and my native ability to sniff out a good chord, to know what to play. It was downright glorious. When I invariably chose the wrong chord, or simply played the wrong note, just wait just a minute, because you’ll get another shot at it when it comes back around.
Build it and they will come
The sound of our playing drifted across the campground, attracting other musicians, and listeners, just as I had been at Father’s Day. I peered into the darkness, and indeed it was my friends and fellow Critical Grass band-mates, Jeremy Reinhard and Leah Wollenberg, come to join.
Shortly, Leah said, “I don’t know so many old-time tunes, but do you know Roscoe’s Gone?” One of the hallmarks of a good old-time jam is that if 1.5 fiddle players know a tune, that’s enough to give a shot. The others watch, listen, and copy until they get it down.
It’s called “chasing a tune,” like the revenuers chasing a moonshiner down a Franklin County, Virginia back road. Our group was game to give it a try.
Leah started to play it, and slowly but surely the others joined in. Tom, another guitar player or two, and I came to some kind of agreement about chords. The next thing you knew, we’d all “caught” the tune and were playing it unbridled.
There I was, in the molten center of the jam, and I would have been happy for it to go until dawn.
What’s the appeal?
What has always attracted me to playing and performing music is the moment when all the musicians lock in together and make something bigger than the sum of the pieces. I’ve felt that in orchestras, choirs, rock bands, and plenty of bluegrass jams. I certainly feel it when Critical Grass is on our A-game.
However, there’s an ethos to many campground bluegrass jams that inclusion is an important component. The musicians sit in a circle, and song choice is rotated around the circle like clockwork. This allows each musician to pick a song on which they get to sing lead. And within each song, solos (“breaks”) are distributed like pieces of birthday cake – everybody gets one. [1]
I am living testament to the value of this ethos. In the early 2000’s, at Kamp Koala at the Strawberry Music Festival, musicians such as Lisa Burns, Larry Chung, Dave Courchaine, Jeff Ward, Wendy Wendt, Rodger Phillips, Scott Micale (RIP), Megan Lynch, and others created a hole in songs so I could build up my chops. More importantly, they welcomed my two sons into those songs, and gave them room to take breaks. Now John is Critical Grass’s mandolin player, and David plays guitar to accompany his ten-year-old on fiddle. I have undying respect and appreciation for this tradition.
In these old-time jams, with no singing to sing of, [2] and no solos, there’s no need to make a hole in the song or the circle for newbies. This isn’t to say newbies aren’t welcomed. More accurately, they’re brought in, while the train is running, at full speed. Conveniently, though, the train is running in a musical circle, so if they miss it this time around, it will be back shortly.
The old-time players seemed just as helpful to the newbies as those bluegrass players were to me a quarter century ago. In the front left of the “Hawk is a Mule” video, you’ll see a fiddle player with close-cropped hair. That’s Luke Abbott, and he’d often pause his playing to hold up chord fingers to the newer rhythm players. The delicious irony of this is that Luke is the creator and maintainer of StrumMachine, an invaluable app that (wait for it…) teaches musicians chords to songs and provides accompaniment. If a man is called to be a teacher…
One jam, under a groove
George Clinton envisions one nation, under a groove. Sadly, we are far from that ideal. But I now understand the appeal of a raging old-time jam:
It’s the groove.
A fiddle player friend of mine says it’s trance, which seems on-point. You don’t have to remember the third verse of “Cabin in the Hills of Caroline,” or prep for your solo, or bemoan how you could have played it better. Whatever you’re doing, it’s the same thing over and over again, allowing your fingers to do all the work, and your brain to check out. I see how it put Elena to sleep – it’s the musical equivalent of counting sheep, but with a much better melody.
I now understand what it’s all about, and I’m a fan. I still love my bluegrass friends. And I adore my bluegrass band. But when dark falls on the festivals, I will be out looking for the old-time people. To chase a tune, and once they pull me on-board, sit in the middle of a musical whirlpool with no predefined end.
But next time… next time, I’ll have my glow sticks with me.
[1] Interestingly, this is most notable in California. In the Nashville bluegrass jams I’ve been in, song choice is made by whoever has the best next song to play. And the breaks are designed to fit the song, not vice versa.
[2] Virtuoso mandolin player and co-leader of epic band Watchhouse, Andrew Marlin, wrote a fiddle/mandolin tune called “Hawk is a Mule.” The entire lyric consists of singing “Well a hawk is a mule.” halfway through the B-part.















